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  • fauxc's Avatar
    fauxc
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 47

    Slingshot at pack event

    #1
    10-01-2012, 11:02 AM
    I had a situation at a pack event where one of the boys brought a wrist rocket and was chasing and shooting acorns and other objects at people. I didn't hear about this until a few days after the event, but I want to address it right away so that is doesn't happen again. I'm thankful that nobody got hurt. I don't believe this type of weapon or even a toy weapon has anyplace at a scouting function. I plan on having the den leasers speak about the seriousness of this in front of their boys and their parents. I also want to state that if it happens again, there will be some sort of disciplinary action that needs to be taken. Has anyone had this situation happen before? If so, what did you do about it? Also, are there any scout guidelines that talk about this that I can bring up or refer to?

    Thanks
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  • SeattlePioneer's Avatar
    SeattlePioneer
    Senior Member
    • May 2005
    • 3602
    #2
    10-01-2012, 11:08 AM
    You are doing the right thing, but I wouldn't emphasize punishments --- I would emphasize the rule. If the rule were understood I doubt there would have been an issue.

    Too bad adults didn't intervene when the issue was at hand.

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    • ScouterAdam's Avatar
      ScouterAdam
      Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 87
      #3
      10-01-2012, 11:44 AM
      No, your correct. I put those types of devices in the same catagory as Archery, BBGuns and Knives. Leave them at home. Knives you have the Whittlin Chit, the rest are done at Council/District Camps/events. Our council had a slingshot range the past couple of years, but it's ran as you would expect.

      I have no problem with this.

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      • packsaddle's Avatar
        packsaddle
        Super Moderator
        • Dec 1999
        • 7180
        #4
        10-01-2012, 11:45 AM
        " Also, are there any scout guidelines that talk about this that I can bring up or refer to?"
        As far as I can tell, the G2SS doesn't specifically address slingshots. But the principle is the same as in archery. And archery for cub scouts is limited to scout camp activities, not even allowed as a pack activity outside of day camp or similar situation.
        I think if those involved will merely exercise a few neurons they'll understand that this is something that should be prohibited.

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        • FrankScout's Avatar
          FrankScout
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 222
          #5
          10-01-2012, 12:16 PM
          G2SS aside, if YOU think it's unsafe, and YOU want to prohibit it, then that's YOUR prerogative! Make sure everyone knows it next time! Personally, I think slingshots should be treated the same as Bow & Arrow, and BB, and should be used only as an organized event.

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          • pchadbo's Avatar
            pchadbo
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 293
            #6
            10-01-2012, 12:18 PM
            Not sure where (if anyhwere) it is in the G2ss, however, wrist rockets were part of the curriculum for my Cub shooting sports qualifications. Yes treat them EXACTLY like BB guns and bos and arrows.

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            • fauxc's Avatar
              fauxc
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2008
              • 47
              #7
              10-01-2012, 12:35 PM
              I agree that it would be considered the same as BB's and Bows and arrows. My main issue is that they weren't just shooting things to shoot. They were shooting other boys and someone could have gotten seriously injured. Personally, if my son was doing this, I would ground him in my own way, but I want it to be know that this is not tolerated what so ever. Bringing it is one thing, but shooting it at others is another. I will come up with some rules of things that are not allowed at scouting events. The sad thing is that this should be common sense and the parents should teach their kids this. Since the bears are allowed to earn the whittlin chip, we will have to keep close watch on this because knives are even more dangerous.

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              • OldGreyEagle's Avatar
                OldGreyEagle
                Super Moderator
                • Apr 2013
                • 0
                #8
                10-01-2012, 01:04 PM
                I am not sure I would need a guideline to quote other other than shooting acorns and the like at other people is not very scoutlike at a pack event or other venue

                As far as "Punishment" at the next unit meeting levels of behavior have to be established and I am not talking about writing rules, just establishing that an action causing pain and possible injury is not a good idea, under any circumstances

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                  OldGreyEagle
                  Super Moderator
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 0
                  #9
                  10-01-2012, 01:16 PM
                  I am not sure I would need a guideline to quote other other than shooting acorns and the like at other people is not very scoutlike at a pack event or other venue

                  As far as "Punishment" at the next unit meeting levels of behavior have to be established and I am not talking about writing rules, just establishing that an action causing pain and possible injury is not a good idea, under any circumstances

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                  • perdidochas's Avatar
                    perdidochas
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1012
                    #10
                    10-01-2012, 01:30 PM
                    The main thing is that a scout shouldn't be hurting other scouts. I'm just glad to hear that nobody got hurt. Also, what did the adults who were at the pack event do? I pretty much agree with OGE. No rule other than common sense.

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                    • Twocubdad's Avatar
                      Twocubdad
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                      • Jun 2002
                      • 3792
                      #11
                      10-01-2012, 02:47 PM
                      Several years ago I had a new Scout (who really didn't know any better) bring a wrist rocket on a campout. Another kid (who DID know better) had the entire new scout patrol cowering behind their patrol tub while he shot at them with acorns. Several had large welts one was bleeding from a shot he took to the shin.

                      The idiot doing the shooting went home and got a month off from the troop. In retrospect, malicious injury like that was probably deserving of dismissal.

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                      • T2Eagle's Avatar
                        T2Eagle
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 190
                        #12
                        10-01-2012, 02:50 PM
                        I don't think you need a rule or set of guidelines or having all the den leaders speak to everyone. You need to talk to the idiot parents and son who did this. He shouldn't have had it, he shouldn't have shot it at anyone, he's never allowed to bring it again, and that's all there is to it.

                        Probably everybody else in your Pack has enough sense to not let their son bring a wrist rocket to a scout event, let alone let them shoot it at anyone. So there's no reason to chastise everyone or come up with a set of rules or guidelines. Keep it simple, solve the problem you have --- this kid, this family, and that will probably be the end of it.

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                        • CalicoPenn's Avatar
                          CalicoPenn
                          Junior Member
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 2271
                          #13
                          10-01-2012, 03:19 PM
                          What's your role with the Pack? I ask because if you're the Cubmaster or Committee Chair, as much as I'd be wondering how to handle this, I'd be wondering if I could trust any of the leaders that was on that event that didn't take action then and there. It seems to me you need to get all your leaders on the same page when it comes to things like this so there wouldn't have been any question that someone wearing a leadership patch from the Pack stepped forward without any hesitation.

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                          • CalicoPenn's Avatar
                            CalicoPenn
                            Junior Member
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 2271
                            #14
                            10-01-2012, 03:19 PM
                            (double post)(This message has been edited by calicopenn)

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                            • fauxc's Avatar
                              fauxc
                              Junior Member
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 47
                              #15
                              10-01-2012, 04:08 PM
                              Calico,

                              I'm the CM. The problem was there weren't any leaders that saw this because they were busy with running the activity. One of the boys told me that it happened. I plan on telling the leaders if this does happen in the future to take away the weapon and notify me and we will have to speak with the parents.

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