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  • TAHAWK's Avatar
    TAHAWK
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 517

    Journey to Excellence "Campout"

    #1
    10-09-2012, 11:44 PM
    Putting aside what I think, what I thought I "knew" and why, what is a "weekend campout" for purposes of the requirements for Journey to Excellence?
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  • qwazse's Avatar
    qwazse
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 2209
    #2
    10-10-2012, 04:54 AM
    It's what a troop or crew that could care less about JTE does for a weekend every month or so.

    Seriously, if you're wasting time splitting hairs over the definition (or how someone else is using it) give it to a youth in your unit to fill out for you.

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    • Eagle732's Avatar
      Eagle732
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 1439
      #3
      10-10-2012, 05:53 AM
      We don't fill out the JTE form but maybe we should give it to the PLC and let them do it.
      My guess is it wouldn't get done.

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      • Basementdweller's Avatar
        Basementdweller
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 4419
        • KEEP SCOUTING LOCAL
        #4
        10-10-2012, 07:25 AM
        Remember Cabins do not count as camping??????

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        • Twocubdad's Avatar
          Twocubdad
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2002
          • 3793
          #5
          10-10-2012, 08:00 AM
          Actually, we had one of the helicopter moms on the committee propose one last year. Her idea for one campout where the boys could focus on advancement so we could meet the goal of every Scout advancing one rank a year. While Scouts are working on advancement and I conduct conferences at almost every campout, the idea was this would be the focus of the campout. In her opinion, on "regular" campouts, the boys get destracted by the other activities and often forget to ask for conferences or get requirements signed, which is true.

          Don't recall what we did that weekend, but it was NOT focused on advancement or JTE.

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          • qwazse's Avatar
            qwazse
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 2209
            #6
            10-10-2012, 09:21 AM
            E732,

            I do give it to my crew officers to complete. It is a good reflection tool.

            Haven't looked at the troop version in detail, but I'm sure a PLC of older boys could work with it. A younger group might think it's a "to do" list or maybe a test or just another trick to get them to sell more popcorn. They would need your guidance to keep it from overwhelming them.

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              PatB
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 9
              #7
              10-10-2012, 10:48 AM
              Earlier this year, the district was giving a big push to turn in the goal sheet for the troop's journey to excellence. They made a big deal out of having the PLC being involved, so I decided to give it to the youth and ask them to fill it out.

              We haven't had a problem meeting the form's gold standard and I anticipate the same results this year. However, the boys had lower expectations and set our sights on silver. I got a chuckle out of putting a note on the form that our unit had lowered it's goals based on input from the youth. I am sure that made some commissioner pucker up when he read it!

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              • TAHAWK's Avatar
                TAHAWK
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 517
                #8
                10-13-2012, 04:25 AM
                1. Snarky remarks? How Scout-like.

                2. Anyone who actually knows what the corporation means? (Yes, we all have our ideas.)

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                • qwazse's Avatar
                  qwazse
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 2209
                  #9
                  10-13-2012, 09:19 AM
                  Just looked at the troop score card for 2012. Not bad. Pity there isin't a line for the SPL's signature.

                  Can't find where it mentions "the corporation"?

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                    qwazse
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 2209
                    #10
                    10-13-2012, 09:20 AM
                    Oops. Double post.(This message has been edited by Qwazse)

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                    • SeattlePioneer's Avatar
                      SeattlePioneer
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2005
                      • 3603
                      #11
                      10-13-2012, 02:46 PM
                      >


                      It wouldn't bother me.

                      In my view, JTE is a management tool that units can use to set goals and monitor the achievement of those goals.

                      It's not a UC's job to set those goals.

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                      • TAHAWK's Avatar
                        TAHAWK
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 517
                        #12
                        02-18-2013, 03:07 PM


                        ISSUE: Is an overnight stay in a heated cabin a "campout." (As regards which, are the requiremens for the Camping Merit Badge authority of any kind for defi9ning "campout"?)

                        The "corporation" is The Boy Scouts of America, Inc., a 501(c)(3) non-profit corporation.

                        All the frantic interest is coming from adults who want to sure "they" win "Gold."

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                        • dcsimmons's Avatar
                          dcsimmons
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 74
                          #13
                          02-18-2013, 04:01 PM
                          From the FAQ on the JTE website



                          http://www.scouting.org/filestore/mi..._FAQs-Unit.pdf FWIW. I'd interpret that to say if your cabin camp was a troop outing then count it.

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                          • Twocubdad's Avatar
                            Twocubdad
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 3793
                            #14
                            02-18-2013, 04:45 PM
                            Walk into to your next committee meeting (or where ever the JTE bean counters meet), collect all the score sheets and light them on fire.

                            This is what is referred to as "effective communications."

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                            • TAHAWK's Avatar
                              TAHAWK
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 517
                              #15
                              02-18-2013, 08:47 PM
                              Thank you, dcsimmons.


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