Well Krampus, next summer don't go to a merit badge summer camp....

take the troop some where else and do anything but farm merit badges.....

The parents will never buy it will they????

KDD step back relax....It will happen when it does....Your scout is what 11????? Generally our boys don't get to take swimming till their third trip to summer camp???? So they are 13 or so.

Another advantage I have Krampus.....I have a committee of life long troop members ....60-70 year old Eagles...

They can be a cranky bunch, but they have my back and like the energy in the troop room......I wish they would ease up on my 13 year old spl a bit.......Tough crowd some nights.

Those parent shenanigans won't dent their armor and they have seen it all........

While they don't camp with us, they have been known to come out for dinner saturday night if we aren't too far from town.

​a couple are fantastic story tellers around the campfire......

I just can't spin a tale like them, no matter how hard I try....

I view the bourbon and such I enjoy as solvent....Helps break up the grease from the chicken wings......


I am going to say that just about the entire troop has Seen me on my back porch with the neighbor enjoying a cigar and beverage......the joys of a tight knit community....Had one mom try to make a big deal about it.....the minister said he was mad he didn't get invited.....Mr. B was drinking and smoking on his back porch......My son saw it.....No I wasn't stupid drunk....crown black is too expensive for that...I also enjoy woodford reserve...

I think the entire troop membership has spent a night with scout son in the man cave video gaming.....

hehehe Vegans......I won't eat anything with a face....

If god didn't intend us to eat our animal friends then why did he make them so tasty????

Followed by wasn't it Fruit that got us thrown out of eden????? If Eve had killed the serpent and served it to Adam instead of the fruit where would we be now??????

I think your reading it right...

the only part that is grey is how the "help/services" were offered..... Was it in passing in a conversation......I am guilty of missing those offers......Or was it point blank.....as in.....I want to plan the Blue and gold banquet.......

Blw....you wouldn't happen to have a picture of that bridge would you????

Always looking to improve our ceremony gear...... I think it sounds like a fantastic troop project.

I get whats going on now KDD....

Lots of adults coming and going during the week.

So do you cook by Patrol??? you didn't mention it.

Just did exactly what your talking about......

I looked at the roster.....I know who was strong in various skills and then divided the boys into patrols..... I didn't ask for permission from the boys, commmittee....Just did it....we went from Troop method to Patrol method in one month.........Now we are still progressing....

If you ever want any patrol spirit to build you need to make them stay together...... The first two campouts were awkward.....but now they have gelled it is fine.....

We tent by patrol.......the only time that changes is when we form an adhoc patrol for high adventure and it is the older guys.......It just doesn't make sense to have 2 patrols of 3 or 4 guys each

Unpopular scout......So why is he unpopular??? Nightmares, Lazy??? messy tent mate, Too much stuff????? smells, uncool?????? Still seeing how it is going to shake out.....the boys seem to be rotating tent mates..... I would find out the reason and then have and SMC with the lad about it.


None of my scouts seem interested in tenting alone.....When the hit the sack they generally chat and BS for an hour or so before they quiet down.... If a scout wants to tent alone.....let them providing you have enough gear.....

Patiences.....change will take time....

Have the patrols made their patrol flag, yell and patch????? had any competitions yet??? I developed Patrol awards and it has really helped with Patrol spirit.....

That is all true....but at least I can sleep in the woods, in a tent and in the dark without a firearm.


If you taking your scouts somewhere you feel absolutely have to have a firearm for your personal safety........I would question your judgement with my scouts personal safety....

After thinking about poor old Krampus's situation, I am not sure what I would do...

So you have parents who study the guide to advancement, track their scouts every activity and plan summer camp to the nth degree.....Then expect their scouts advancement to be signed off the second he successfully completes something the first time..... At summer camp, The first year program completion is fact and the Scouts home unit is not permitted to evaluate the scouts.....

If you do not credit the scout the second the parents thinks you should, they call the CC and then District or council to get satisfaction.....


So what would you do if your unit had a bunch of Parents like that????

How does a unit change the culture????

After thinking about poor old Krampus's situation, I am not sure what I would do...

So you have parents who study the guide to advancement, track their scouts every activity and plan summer camp to the nth degree.....Then expect their scouts advancement to be signed off the second he successfully completes something the first time..... At summer camp, The first year program completion is fact and the Scouts home unit is not permitted to evaluate the scouts.....

If you do not credit the scout the second the parents thinks you should they call the CC and then District or council to get satisfaction.....


So what would you do if your unit had a bunch of Parents like that????

How does a unit change the culture????



No wonder we have very low quality scouts now.

I would love to see how a unit like this runs.......I bet all of the parents hang in the back of the room like the sports parents do.......

How sad to take something as pure as a group of similar aged boys looking for adventure and twisting it into an adult drive advancement feast

Council tells us volunteers the do a new background check with every app....now if that is true or not.......honestly I just don't see them wasting the money doing my background check for the 8th time.....

No doubt some do and some don't. Consistency in the BSA