That is why many businesses cringe when they see an adult in a scout uniform coming in the door. We always want donations.

hehehehe,

Let me see....our district hosted a Golf outing that reportedly had a profit of $15,000....they had a trap shoot that profited $5,000....this is our district level only not council.....

They also charge for our Districts award dinner and it is pot luck.....They canceled it this year because only two people signed up to attend.

Our cub day camp made a profit of $3,000....where did that money go....


We all know where it goes to the general fund at council.......

I was Day camp program director for 1 year....The DE made a lot of promises and had me on the hook.....I begged, cashed in favors, and in some cases borrowed with less than complete permission the things I needed to put the camp on, with the understanding that I would be reimbursed from the profits and we would buy BB guns, fishing poles and Archery gear for the coming years.... So In October I check our districts day camp account to see how much money I have to work with......it was several thousand dollars... so I get quotes for the gear for the coming year......middle of january go to council with the quotes to get the gear ordered.....voila the account is empty...... It seems it is the SE's policy to zero all of THOSE accounts at the beginning of the year.....

Call to DE, who acted stupid......and he said he never lead me to believe that would occur.....

This is the same reason a district camporeee with donated camping space and volunteer run activities cost me $15 a head before I buy food. this is the same reason I am charged $100 a weekend to tent camp at our councils camps....


Ya you hit a hot button with me.......So I spent between $500-800 out of my pocket to put on a day camp and never got the money from the DE......I gave him my reciepts,,,,but he doesn't remember that earlier....

that is why I keep telling new members of the board the never trust a professional scouter.

Excellent post and summation Vivdi

If I was his SM, I would slow him way down...... Of course the boys will probably do it for him....

We don't utilize the do nothing Positions of Responsibility.........No librarian, No webmaster, no historian.....

Advancement is only one method in scouting...

Just the way the summer camp our troop has traditionally attended functions.....

First year scouts attend the first year program, the CD makes no exceptions.
Second year scouts attend a half day first class program, again no exceptions.

Swimming and Lifesaving are held in the morning which the second year scouts are in their program areas.... Outside of summer camp their is no merit badge councilors for swimming outside of troop specific ones....

Got an email over the weekend that says our council is casting all of it's votes in support of the resolution.....

Well Krampus, next summer don't go to a merit badge summer camp....

take the troop some where else and do anything but farm merit badges.....

The parents will never buy it will they????

KDD step back relax....It will happen when it does....Your scout is what 11????? Generally our boys don't get to take swimming till their third trip to summer camp???? So they are 13 or so.

Another advantage I have Krampus.....I have a committee of life long troop members ....60-70 year old Eagles...

They can be a cranky bunch, but they have my back and like the energy in the troop room......I wish they would ease up on my 13 year old spl a bit.......Tough crowd some nights.

Those parent shenanigans won't dent their armor and they have seen it all........

While they don't camp with us, they have been known to come out for dinner saturday night if we aren't too far from town.

​a couple are fantastic story tellers around the campfire......

I just can't spin a tale like them, no matter how hard I try....

I view the bourbon and such I enjoy as solvent....Helps break up the grease from the chicken wings......


I am going to say that just about the entire troop has Seen me on my back porch with the neighbor enjoying a cigar and beverage......the joys of a tight knit community....Had one mom try to make a big deal about it.....the minister said he was mad he didn't get invited.....Mr. B was drinking and smoking on his back porch......My son saw it.....No I wasn't stupid drunk....crown black is too expensive for that...I also enjoy woodford reserve...

I think the entire troop membership has spent a night with scout son in the man cave video gaming.....

hehehe Vegans......I won't eat anything with a face....

If god didn't intend us to eat our animal friends then why did he make them so tasty????

Followed by wasn't it Fruit that got us thrown out of eden????? If Eve had killed the serpent and served it to Adam instead of the fruit where would we be now??????

I think your reading it right...

the only part that is grey is how the "help/services" were offered..... Was it in passing in a conversation......I am guilty of missing those offers......Or was it point blank.....as in.....I want to plan the Blue and gold banquet.......

Blw....you wouldn't happen to have a picture of that bridge would you????

Always looking to improve our ceremony gear...... I think it sounds like a fantastic troop project.

I get whats going on now KDD....

Lots of adults coming and going during the week.

So do you cook by Patrol??? you didn't mention it.

Just did exactly what your talking about......

I looked at the roster.....I know who was strong in various skills and then divided the boys into patrols..... I didn't ask for permission from the boys, commmittee....Just did it....we went from Troop method to Patrol method in one month.........Now we are still progressing....

If you ever want any patrol spirit to build you need to make them stay together...... The first two campouts were awkward.....but now they have gelled it is fine.....

We tent by patrol.......the only time that changes is when we form an adhoc patrol for high adventure and it is the older guys.......It just doesn't make sense to have 2 patrols of 3 or 4 guys each

Unpopular scout......So why is he unpopular??? Nightmares, Lazy??? messy tent mate, Too much stuff????? smells, uncool?????? Still seeing how it is going to shake out.....the boys seem to be rotating tent mates..... I would find out the reason and then have and SMC with the lad about it.


None of my scouts seem interested in tenting alone.....When the hit the sack they generally chat and BS for an hour or so before they quiet down.... If a scout wants to tent alone.....let them providing you have enough gear.....

Patiences.....change will take time....

Have the patrols made their patrol flag, yell and patch????? had any competitions yet??? I developed Patrol awards and it has really helped with Patrol spirit.....